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Those old enough to remember when there was a Yugoslavia might well remember this game "The match that started the war" between Dinamo Zagreb and Red Star Belgrade in 1990.

a few vids here show the Zagreb fans and the serb plod having a proper tear up, and even a close up of the infamous Boban attack on the copper, where Boban said after " Here I was, a public face prepared to risk his life, career, and everything that fame could have brought, all because of one ideal, one cause; the Croatian cause"

led to the horrific balkans war, takes the whole term football rivalry to another level.

 

 

 

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Think this forms one of the 30/30 docs 

Compulsive viewing 

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Few things to note about this:

Yugoslavia was breaking down way before this. It was just a matter of time when the war is going to start. This incident among others took it over the top.

It was all organized in advance. Red star supporters 'Delije' were on the south stands and Dinamo 'Bad blue boys' were on the north stand. On the east and west were casual fans with families and kids. The was no police on the south stand around Delije. So Delije were free to attack fans on the east stands. You can see it in the first video around 1:30 mark, one policeman standing and doing nothing while Delije are beating dinamo fans. As it's said in the second video it was organized by Arkan a serb that was with Delije who would later become a leader of the notorious death squad that did all kind of war crimes on the balkans in the following years.

Bad blue boys wanted to break from the north stand and go to the south to help the other fans. Thats when the pro-serb police decided to intervene and all hell broke loose. The fight was then between bad blue boys and the police with delije watching from the south stand. Later in the first video you can see police shooting tear gas on the west stand were there was no riot just families with kids.

And Zvonimir Boban what a legend:notworthy: captain, best croatian player taking a stand for the fans:notworthy:

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Done a project in college just before and after Crimbo. Based it on sport mixing with politics basically, focusing on Yugoslavia mostly. Founds loads of interesting stuff to read. When I get a chance when my exams are finished on Thursday ill post some of it up. 

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On 10/1/2017 at 8:35 PM, Sami3lungs said:

Think this forms one of the 30/30 docs 

Compulsive viewing 

Dont think so Sami. It would have come in handy. I searched for docs on it but couldnt find any English language ones. Im nearly sure there was a basketball one based on Yugoslavia though, could be wrong. 

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6 hours ago, Seanachais said:

Dont think so Sami. It would have come in handy. I searched for docs on it but couldnt find any English language ones. Im nearly sure there was a basketball one based on Yugoslavia though, could be wrong. 

Your right about the basketball one , must be mistaken about football one 

Basketball one is called "Once Brothers" if your interested , great watch

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Theres some reading for yous. The stuff from Richard Mills in particular is very engaging. 

He has a book coming out, it looks very good  http://www.ibtauris.com/Books/Humanities/History/History-specific-events--topics/Social--cultural-history/Sport-and-the-State-in-Socialist-Yugoslavia-Football-Politics-and-Nationalism

 

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